From: Colin Paul Adams COLINA DEMON CO UK> Date: 17 nov 1999 Subject: Re: Capturing a Chu Lion >>>>> "Nick" == Nick Bardsley ICC CO UK> writes: Nick> illegal because once the Lion has moved to a (1) square, the Nick> 8 squares surrounding it become (2) squares, whether they Nick> were (1) squares to begin with or not. (This isn't No. But it is illegal, because having first moved to an empty square, you can only then move back to the origin. I am too used to explaining to beginners who can't be bothered to read the rules for themselves, that the Lion move is a jump to the second square, or two king moves. In fact, it is not, but I have begun to believe my own propaganda :-) Nick> imperfect understanding of what igui actually is. Is it a Nick> capture on a (1) square and then a move back to the start Nick> square? Or is it a genuinely motionless capture? These two The former. Nick> interpretations are equivalent aren't they? There is no In Chu, I think they are equivalent, but in Tenjiku, not so, as you might be able to promote to a Lion Hawk. The two interpretations for a pass move though are different. The former is definitely correct. Nick> Hold on, I'm misreading you (t'ink) - are you asking if the Nick> Lion can capture an opposing Lion on a (1) square and then Nick> stay on that (1) square? If you are and in your apology you Nick> said it was not legal, why ever not? It was only the latter case that was illegal. I was confusing myself. The fact remains that rule 4 does not indicate whether a Lion on a 1 square can be captured without igui if it is protected. I think it is safe to assume that it is meant, though, as otherwise igui becomes a special case. So I have decided to assume it for my computer program. -- Colin Paul Adams Preston Lancashire