From: George Hodges TALK21 COM> Date: 11 nov 1999 Subject: Re Kylin in Cu Shogi This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF2C49.C48D69E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rikard Nordgren asks about the "Kylin" to complete his list of Chu Shogi = terms in Swedish:- This is a mythical beast that appears on Chinese and Japanese pottery, = also there is a very famous Japanese Beer called Kirin Beer with a = picture on the label. Very tasty it is too! A little feature about this beast appeared in my SHOGI magazine, issue = No.30 of March 1981 as under: "Sometimes camelopard, loosely =3Dunicorn. But what is it? The famous Japanese encyclopedia Kinmo Zui Taisei of 1666 in the section on animals, here reproduced (we gave an illustration) states:- 'The Kylin is a benevolent animal. It has the body of a stag, the tail = of an ox and a single horn. The male is called Ki and the female rin. It never treads on living = plants or insects. This animal appears whenever an eminent sage is alive'. As to the last point, a Kylin is said to have appeared, for instance, = when Confucius was born (it is essentially a Chinese legend). Other texts add more information: its feet are ungulate, its body is = blue- green, its mane is multi-coloured and it eats bad dreams!" My Engelsk-Svensk Ordbok gives: giraff =3D camelopard and enh=F6rning = =3D unicorn I suspect the latter would be the best name for the beast for it really = does have a single horn. I presume that Swedish, like English, is = defective in having terms for such mythical and essentially oriental = beasts. This is why we stuck to Kylin, which is in the larger English = dictionaries and is valid as an English term. Just to confuse matters further, if you ever get into Dai-Dai Shogi = orTai Shogi you will come across a "Barin". This we have called somewhat = simply but with some reason a Flying Horse. But what exactly a Barin is = we have never been able to establish. Another mystical beast for sure = and we appreciate the significance of "Ba" in this context, but can = anyone say for certain what it is? George Hodges ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01BF2C49.C48D69E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rikard Nordgren asks about the "Kylin" = to complete=20 his list of Chu Shogi terms in Swedish:-
 
This is a mythical beast that appears = on Chinese=20 and Japanese pottery, also there is a very famous Japanese Beer called = Kirin=20 Beer with a picture on the label. Very tasty it is too!
 
A little feature about this beast = appeared in my=20 SHOGI magazine, issue No.30 of March 1981 as under:
 
"Sometimes camelopard, loosely = =3Dunicorn. But what=20 is it?
The famous Japanese encyclopedia Kinmo = Zui Taisei=20 of 1666 in the
section on animals, here reproduced (we = gave an=20 illustration) states:-
 
'The Kylin is a benevolent animal. It = has the body=20 of a stag, the tail of
an ox and a single horn.
The male is called Ki and the female = rin. It never=20 treads on living plants
or insects. This animal appears = whenever an eminent=20 sage is alive'.
 
As to the last point, a Kylin is said = to have=20 appeared, for instance, when
Confucius was born (it is essentially a = Chinese=20 legend).
Other texts add more information: its = feet are=20 ungulate, its body is blue-
green, its mane is multi-coloured and = it eats bad=20 dreams!"
 
My Engelsk-Svensk Ordbok gives: giraff = =3D camelopard=20 and enh=F6rning=20 =3D unicorn
I suspect the latter would be the best = name for the=20 beast for it really does have a single horn. I presume that Swedish, = like=20 English, is defective in having terms for such mythical and essentially = oriental=20 beasts. This is why we stuck to Kylin, which is in the larger English=20 dictionaries and is valid as an English term.
 
Just to confuse matters further, if you = ever get=20 into Dai-Dai Shogi orTai Shogi you will come across a "Barin". This we = have=20 called somewhat simply but with some reason a Flying Horse. But what = exactly a=20 Barin is we have never been able to establish. Another mystical beast = for sure=20 and we appreciate the significance of "Ba" in this context, but can = anyone say=20 for certain what it is?
 
George = Hodges
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