From: Peter Banaschak T-ONLINE DE> Date: 8 nov 1999 Subject: Re: Chu shogi rules question Ahoi! Frankly, I do not really understand the question. I do _not_ think it's a question of bare kings. > Rikard> ! > Rikard> !---!---!---! > Rikard> ! ! ! FK! > Rikard> !---!---!---! > Rikard> ! ! +g! ! > Rikard> !---!---!---! > Rikard> ! k ! ! K ! > Rikard> !---!---!---!--- > > Rikard> It is white (upper case letters) to move, and he takes the black > Rikard> promoted gold with the > Rikard> free king. What happens now? Is the bare king rule applicable here (and > Rikard> thus black gets a draw if he simply retakes) or is it simply mate? In a position like this, it a simple mate (as demonstrated below by Colin, and regardless whether there are other pieces on the board). The FK gives check, the black K cannot retake -- Game Over. > "if one player is reduced to a bare king (said player has only one > piece on the board, and that piece is a king or a crown prince), then > he immediately loses the game, except in the following circumstances: > a) said player can reduce the opponent to a bare king immediately > (i.e. with the very next move of the game). > b) said player can demonstrate a forced reduction of the opponent to > a bare king, without first losing said player's own bare king. > In these two cases the game is to be declared a draw. > c) Said player can immediately (i.e. on the very next move of the > game) capture the opponent's sole king/crown prince. In which case the > opponent loses the game." > Clearly, rules a) and b) will need emending to say something like: > > "unless the opponent can then capture your bare king with his very > next move." > > In which case, the result is then (properly - surely everyone will > agree), a win for White, with the sequence: > > FK x +g, K x FK, K x K In fact I doubt that the second of these moves is legal. If it were, the third move makes it clear: the result is a loss for black. Greetings, Peter