From: Larry Kaufman WIZARD NET> Date: 17 feb 1999 Subject: Re: shuffle chess(or shogi) -----Original Message----- From: The Shogi Discussion List [mailto:SHOGI-L techunix technion ac il]On Behalf Of teruko Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 4:31 AM To: SHOGI-L techunix technion ac il Subject: Re: shuffle chess(or shogi) This recent discussion about shuffle shogi suggests there's a fairly widespread dissatisfaction with shogi in it's present form. Although Larry Kaufman has remarked that the study of openings is almost as important in shogi as it is in chess, I find it difficult to imagine that this is in fact the case for the majority of the subscribers to this list. Shogi is primarily a game and as such it's function is to provide enjoyment. Personally I don't enjoy studying and accordingly avoid indulging in it, I can play amusing shogi at 4th dan level without the inconvenience of studying openings. I can also derive enjoyment from the play of professionals (who do need to study in order to succeed in their work) without having any desire to join their ranks, either in standard of play or in nature of employment. Alternatively if it's a question of introducing a new variant why not try whatever springs to mind at the time? Mike Sandeman. For the most part, I would agree with Mike. In both chess and shogi, it is only at the higher levels that the study of opening theory is really important, as at lower levels one can play dubious or obsolete openings with little risk of the opponent knowing exactly how to punish you. The level at which opening theory becomes important is probably somewhat higher in shogi than in chess. However, even at the amateur 4 dan level and perhaps below, one will sometimes lose games due to an opponent playing a variation that you are unfamiliar with but which he is an expert on. Also, unlike Mike, I and some other players do have the desire, but not the expectation, to see our standard of play reach professional level, and so we feel obligated to study. I don't think the discussion of shuffle shogi means that we are terribly dissatisfied with normal shogi; it arose because although most of us feel that shogi is the best game in the world today, it does have some flaws and could conceivably be made even better. Regards, Larry Kaufman