From: Doug Dysart YAHOO COM> Date: 21 aug 1999 Subject: Shogi World v. Chess There's a stark contrast between the way the "World Championship" titles are determined in the chess and shogi worlds. Shogi is more like boxing, and chess is similar to the olympics. Does anyone think there should be a unification match in shogi? On a related note, this posting appeared on Chess-L: "Adams endorsed the knockout tournament concept as it stands, and hopes it continues, calling it "the best available." When pushed on the subject he said "the old system of zonals and interzonals was completely random and had its own problems," and "the old system is basically just a way to keep the champion on top." "(BTW, this isn't the first time this idea has been mentioned. Back in the 60's and 70's many players pointed to the long arduous course the challenger had to run just to get to play the champion, exhausting themselves and their ideas while the Champion just sat on his hands and observed. "He also isn't interested in any sort of "unification" match. He doesn't think it's important. He hopes Kasparov keeps on organizing championship events as well; the more activity the better for chess." I like shogi's continual offering of exciting title matches. It's much more exciting viewing. Like in boxing, I get to see a fair number of titles up for grabs. Champions must stay on their toes or step aside. In chess, the champ can sit and wait. One thing, though: who is the REAL chess champ? Also, would someone please teach Hikaru Nakamura to play shogi?! I hear he doesn't play at all! "Hikaru Nakamura, age 11, defeats Grandmaster Alejandro Hoffman in US Open by Sam Sloan Hikaru Nakamura, who made chess history last year by becoming the first US player to achieve the master rank at the age of 10, has checkmated Grandmaster Alejandro Hoffman of Argentina tonight in the US Open Chess Championship. Hikaru Nakamura has finished the tournament with 6.5-2.5, which is only one point behind the first place finishers. Hikaru says that his winning move was 25. .... Nf3. Here is the game: [Event "U.S. Open 99"] [Site "Reno USA"] [Date "1999.08.20"] [Round "9"] [White "Hoffman,Alejandro"] [Black "Nakamura,Hikaru"] [Result "0-1"] [ECO "E61"] [PlyCount "70"] 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. Nf3 O-O 5. Bf4 d6 6. h3 c5 7. d5 a6 8. a4 Nh5 9. Bd2 f5 10. e3 e5 11. dxe6 Bxe6 12. Be2 Nc6 13. O-O f4 14. Nd5 Bh6 15. Ra3 Bxd5 16. cxd5 Ne7 17. e4 Nf6 18. Qb1 g5 19. a5 Ng6 20. b4 cxb4 21. Bxb4 Qe7 22. Bd3 g4 23. Nd4 Nh4 24. hxg4 Nxg4 25. Ne6 Nf3+ 26. gxf3 Qh4 27. fxg4 Qxg4+ 28. Kh2 Qh4+ 29. Kg1 Qg4+ 30. Kh2 Qh4+ 31. Kg1 Kf7 32. Bc3 b5 33. Bg7 Qg4+ 34. Kh2 f3 35. Rg1 Qh4# 0-1" BTW, could someone lead me toward a database of Fujii's games? Also, is there a database of Habu's and Tanigawa's games? The title games are everywhere, but they play other games, right? Doug Dysart Ohio Shogi Club __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com