From: rdickson ACHILLES NET Date: 27 may 1998 Subject: English Shogi Material George Jost notes:<> He's right. I don't know any of the details, but Tony Hosking's experience in publishing The Art of Shogi might provide some insight into this. Traditional book publishing, which includes marketing, payment for the author's time, editor's time, publisher's overhead, printing, more marketing, distribution etc and still more marketing costs a lot of money. Add on a translator's time and divide the sum by the limited market, probably less than 1000 copies for an English shogi book, and you've got a pricey product. Perhaps, our goal of producing inexpensive, intelligible English books on shogi can be met by avoiding some of these expenses. Would it be possible for those necessary to the project to donate their time, and charge out of pocket expenses (i.e. printing and mailing) at cost? Some of us are in this business already so these commitments may not be all that difficult to achieve. Marketing over the internet with the cooperation of certain list servers and webmasters could be virtually free. As could printing and distribution if virtual books were a solution. The real problem is getting the people who have invested their lives to become shogi experts to waive their legitimate fees for use in English of their intellectual property. The benefits: A resource that might encourage the growth outside of Japan of the world's most perfect board game. The possibility that these players be eventually able to support an English shogi publication. A printed product distributed in a new market that could be used to promote those who have contributed, particularly the original writers. Ross