From: Hans Secelle CDDB BRUSSELS MINFIN BE> Date: 26 may 1998 Subject: Re: another contribution Sam Sloan wrote : >I believe that my contribution to the >promotion and development of the game of shogi is vastly greater than his >and that he has no right to threaten and address me in this manner. Let's have a look: Pieter Stouten.... - was co-founder of the Dutch Shogi Association (NShB) ; - was co-founder of the German Shogi Association (Shogi Deutschland) ; - was the first publisher of '81' (the excellent dutch shogi magazine) ; - was co-founder of FESA; - instaured, together with your servant, the FESA Elo-list; - instaured, together with your servant, the FESA Grand Prix Circuit; - acted a couple of years as FESA Chairman; - instaured and compiled the European Tournament Calendar; - organized the 2 most succesfull shogi workshops ever held in Europe (EMBL-Heidelberg) ; - instaured the Shogi-L mailing list..... and, last but not least, is both a great friend and shogiplayer... whose merits are FAR beyond discussion !! So, what do the words "vastly greater" mean ??? Shogi-L is a most enjoyable initiative and is (should be) all about Shogi. "Tits and pussy"-pages can be found on Internet Playboy , Penthouse and Mayfair can be purchased in Book Shops. So guy's, let's call it a day and stop this discussion, we're losing valuable time here. Hans Secelle, FESA Chairman.