From: John <vampir <at> GLOBALNET <dot> CO <dot> UK>
Date: 25 may 1998
Subject: Stouten .V. Sloan

As I am fairly new to the Shogi Mailing list, I don't know how well my
comments will be recived, but here goes.
I can see points on both sides of the arguments between Mr Sloan and Mr
Stouten. While I agree that the "Girls of Shogi" or whatever it was, could
be seen as not really relevant to the discussion, and the arguments
supporting it's inclusion in the list were very much the same kind of thing
that UK tabloid newspapers use to justify poking into people's lives. (what
non Japanese newspapers published the story?)
I feel that warning people about the existance of a breach of copywrite is a
very valid, if not essential bit of information. If we buy something off
these people, will we get the product we ordered? or are we more likely to
get the runaround, and letters returned with "not known at this adress" or
similar. There are enough scare stories about buying on the net, without
letting people get away with this kind of scam unopposed. I would be in
favour of encouraging people to post the names and addresses of anywhere
that they have ordered Shogi equipment/books and not had the order filled,
or been swindeled in any other way. Or if this is impractical, then perhaps
a list of recommended stockists could be compiled.
So c'mon guys be big about this and keep the agression for the game.
John Bailey

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