From: Larry Kaufman WIZARD NET> Date: 3 may 1998 Subject: Re: Post- U.S. Championship ratings -----Original Message----- From: mark schreiber [SMTP:mschribr BRIGADOON COM] Sent: Saturday, May 02, 1998 10:40 PM To: SHOGI-L techunix technion ac il Subject: Re: Post- U.S. Championship ratings Do you know if computers are allowed to play in the US Championship? -----Original Message----- From: Larry Kaufman WIZARD NET> To: SHOGI-L techunix technion ac il techunix technion ac il> Date: Thursday, April 30, 1998 12:57 PM Subject: Post- U.S. Championship ratings > The U.S. Championship and Team Matches have been rated by the D.C. Shogi Club, which functions as the national rating agency for the U.S. = in the absence of a national organization. The handicap tournament has not = yet been rated pending receipt of the crosstable. The participating players = are listed below in order of post-event rating. Please note that although = final agreement on all details of a Pan-Atlantic rating system has not yet = been achieved, we have implemented key aspects of the proposal for this list, most notably using the proposed starting ratings for ranked but unrated players, and using the Logistic formula as already is done in Europe. = It is my hope that these ratings will not be too far out of line with Europe. = The player's name is followed by his current and permanent (if different) = place of residence. The majority of the players with Japanese names are = long-term U.S. residents, but Japanese citizens. So far as I know, the only U.S. citizens in th! >e below list are myself and my son Raymond, George Fernandez, F. = Bekele, and Rob Uechi. > > 1. Toru Inoue 5 Dan - D.C./Japan 2532 > 2. Makoto Kotera 5 Dan - D.C./Japan 2526 > 3. Seiji Kawaberi 5 Dan - Los Angeles 2396 > 4. Larry Kaufman 5 Dan - D.C. 2382 > 5. Mr. Yoneoka 4 Dan - Los Angeles 2241 > 6. Rob Uechi 4 Dan - Seattle/Hawaii 2241 > 7. Mr. Tsuruoka 4 Dan - Indiana 2231 > 8. Mr. Ohno 4 Dan - Los Angeles 2218 > 9. Mr. Murayama 4 Dan - Los Angeles 2211 >10. George Fernandez 4 Dan - New York 2210 >11. Y. Suzuki 4 Dan - New York 2198 >12. Jiro Yoshinari 4 Dan - D.C. 2195 >13. Mr. Morijiri 4 Dan - Indiana 2192 >14. M. Suzuki 4 Dan - New York 2176 >15. Mr. Kuramoto 4 Dan - Los Angeles 2168 >16. Mr. Inoguchi 4 Dan - Los Angeles 2064 >17. Mr. Kitagami 3 Dan - Los Angeles 2057 >18. Mr. Koike 3 Dan - Los Angeles 2040 >19. Shigetaka Ogihara 3 Dan - New York 2019 >20. M. Ito 3 Dan - Los Angeles 2015 >21. Mr. Tamura 3 Dan - Los Angeles 1993 >22. Minoru Hayashi 3 Dan - New York 1836 >23. Mr. Hashimoto 1 Dan - New York 1745 >24. F. Bekele 1 Dan - New York 1619 >25. Mr. Hamaguchi 1 Dan - New York 1529 >26. Komei Wachi 1 Dan - D.C. 1507 >27. Raymond Kaufman 2 kyu - D.C. 1424 [Larry Kaufman] Since none applied to play, the issue was not = discussed. However there is a precedent; a computer was allowed to play = in a regional tournament in D.C. a few years ago. I suspect that they = would be welcomed as a curiosity, until such time in the future as they = become a real threat to win tournaments, as happened some years ago with = chess.