From: Larry Kaufman WIZARD NET> Date: 13 jul 1997 Subject: Byo yomi In reply to various postings on this topic: 1) Time delay as now used is slightly different from the way it was done it pro shogi, in that pro shogi counted only minutes, while modern digital clocks count seconds. So a 30 second delay means the first 30 seconds don't count, not merely that the first 30 don't count. 2) Time delay differs from the Fischer method only in that moves played in less than the delay don't result in an increase in remaining time. 3) The so-called Fischer method, also known as the increment or accumulation method, was invented by me (not by Fischer) circa 1980 for use with the Micromate digital chess clock. We used it regularly in shogi then, occasionally also in chess. The delay method could not be employed on that clock. Although I invented increment, I now prefer delay, as I feel that it is illogical for a player to be able to gain time by repeating position or by playing waiting moves (this latter applies mostly to chess). 4) Although today's digital clocks do have warning beeps, the Chronos clock out now does not permit the use of true time delay (as defined above) with warning beeps when the total of remaining time + delay reaches a specified figure. I believe the USCF clock does do this (I am responsible for this), but the beep on the current model is too quiet to be of much use except in conditions of strict silence, which is not often the case in shogi events. I have persuaded Chronos to add this feature, and have also requested that Excalibur (maker of USCF clock) make the beep louder. Larry Kaufman, 301-309-0904, 9213 Wooden Bridge Road, Potomac, Md. 20854