From: Jeroen Tiggelman CONSUL NL> Date: 28 feb 1997 Subject: Re: flaw in Matt Caster's argument (handicaps ...) George Jost wrote: I>other end of the spectrum. Suppose for the sake of argument that I'm >a beginner at the game of Shogi. I can't find any non-begginer player to >play against. So I play other Kiu player's at sufficient handicaps and win. >After a while I become a "dan" player having beaten a few higher Kiu >players who arose in the same manner. [...] Isn't this exactly the reason why (in a sparse environment) we have promotion comittees and such to prevent this? I think that in absence of any non-beginners, there is no one qualified to determine grades. BTW, I found neither argument convincing. Jeroen Tiggelman consul nl