From: George Jost CA NEWBRIDGE COM> Date: 27 feb 1997 Subject: flaw in Matt Caster's argument (handicaps ...) I found Matt Caster's argument (summarized later)interesting but I contend that it is biased by an emphasis on fairness: the best man should win the game. I think quite to the contrary, that the problem in the system arises from the other end of the spectrum. Suppose for the sake of argument that I'm a beginner at the game of Shogi. I can't find any non-begginer player to play against. So I play other Kiu player's at sufficient handicaps and win. After a while I become a "dan" player having beaten a few higher Kiu players who arose in the same manner. I never matched my wits against a better player. Am I truly a dan or just a man who loves the game but can't afford to go to Japan??? In Matt's scenario a 1 Kiu player became really good at playing 2 dan players in handicap games but never played a real even game. I contend that because his rank is properly bounded from above, eventually things would even out. As a 1 dan he'd get a lesser handicap and eventually he'd play even games.