From: George Fernandez EROLS COM> Date: 20 nov 1996 Subject: Re: Kopie von: Re: Tournaments At 04:55 AM 11/10/96 EST, you wrote: >---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- > >Von: engelhardt, 101536.1704 >An: Pieter Stouten, INTERNET:stoutepf CARBON DMPC COM >Datum: 10.11.96 10:53 > >Betreff:Kopie von: Re: Tournaments > >Due to the problem we had at the recent German Open there are suggestions of >establishing written rules for FESA ( Federation European Shogi Associations) >tournaments along with sanctions covering problems of the above mentioned kind. >I just like to know how this problem is handled in your tournaments. >George Fernandez writes: >>There are numerous rules and regulations which apply during Shogi tournaments >Did you have something in written in the US ? No, there is not a written set of rules at this time. We generally follow the rules used by the amateur renmei in Japan and incorporate common sense regulations, such as prohibiting excessive talking or any other disruptive activity during the game. Establishing a written set of rules and regulations, to be used at tournaments, sounds like a worthwhile project. Personally, I think a review of the rules used by the amateur renmei is a good starting point. Perhaps someone out there knows how we can go about getting and then translating such a document. Additionally, I propose to make this venture a joint project between FESA and the various American shogi clubs(and any other shogi organization which expresses an interest in participating), so that we can have a uniform set of tournament rules. At this year's amateur Ryu-O tournament in Japan, I received a program containing some rules which were applicable to that tournament. As soon as I can get that section translated I will gladly post it if anyone is interested. Since big tournaments are run on a tight time schedule it often becomes necessary to implement special rules regarding draws. There is one strict rule which we do not enforce at our club at this time. Technically, a player's move is considered completed once ones hand is removed from the moving piece. While this rule seems like a clear and straightforward one in theory, in practice it is hard to enforce because at times there is only a split-second during which the hand is removed! We at the DC Shogi Club have customarily[and probably wrongly] allowed the player's move to end once that player's clock is pushed, which is an undeniable act. On rare occasions players do get into bad habits during the game, the most common examples which we see are: Hiding, stacking or scattering their captured pieces; Holding a piece in their hand for a prolonged period of time, while they think; Not placing the pieces in/near the center of the square and/or facing in the right direction; Using excessive force to move the pieces[a la Kato, Hifumi 9Dan]; And incessant muttering, to name a few. A polite and timely warning from the tournament director will usually bring an end to these problems. Well, I hope you find these observations and proposals helpful. Best Regards, George I. Fernandez 2000 S. Eads St., Apt. #504 Arlington, VA 22202 USA Telephone: (703)521-5107 E-Mail: fernandz erols com