From: Albrecht Heeffer RIOS IMPAKT NETPOINT BE> Date: 15 jul 1996 Subject: Re: "Theoretical" Elo ratings ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB724B.5B6240A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, 14 July, 1996 5:20 AM, Pieter = Stouten[SMTP:stoutepf CARBON DMPC COM] wrote: >At 21:22 -0400 96/07/12, Sean Chasworth wrote: >Without a definite answer from Eric Cheymol, it is speculation that = these >grades are used for promotion. As far as I know the "points" system is >still being used. Two more points I like to specify: 1) I was told that reaching the "theoretical" Elo rating of a Dan grade = qualifies for promotion to that grade. The "points" system also is still = in operation. So, as far as I know you can qualify on either one of the = systems. BTW I would like to see the "points" system, as it is used in = Europe, in writing somewhere. I hear contradicting explanations from = people, especially about which games qualify (e.g losing from a 2 Kyu = does count as a game or not). Also, it would be interesting to see how = Dan promotion is done in the USA and Japan. Mr. Yoshinori Sawada already = posted something about that. 2) In Belgium some years ago all Elo ratings of chess players were = upgraded by some formula to compensate for the overall decrease of = ratings. I remember I was upgraded from 1750 or so up to 1900 and = something. If something similar is going on with European Elo ratings = for Shogi players and a Elo rating qualifies for Dan promotion, it would = make sense to do something about the theoretical Elo ratings. 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