From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPmVCPCEhTTU7ThsoQg==?= PO HARENET OR JP> Date: 24 jan 1996 Subject: notation Hello, all Shogi fans and Kawada-san, >Above is a part of my last answer, not Martin-san's. Very sorry that I have made an error. I noticed it after I have posted it. Please convey my compliments to Martin-san. Then Kawada-san, I have to point out what I could not understand well in your last comments. 1. >Even if you don't care about board and pieces, some other Japanese > people may require wooden board and pieces to foreign players because > those Japanese may think the instruments are essential in Japanese > culture. You and I agree upon on the idea that the "material" (not instrument) is not the part of the essence of Japanese culture. I don't think almost all the Japanese would make any complaint on this. Japanese themselves are actually using plastic board, metal board and magnetic pieces. Board is even replaced by a simple thin paper. Are all those thigs annoyng the heart of Japanese ? What's wrong if foreigners should follow it ? Even foreign people may develop new material adequate for Shogi in the future. Woods are precious treasures in the world, we are not allowed to perish them. If foreigners could develop new material, no Japanese would hesitate to adopt it. They will even admire such effort. They'll be glad from bottom of the heart that foreigners have made efforts and given such nice gifts for Shogi and all the world. JAPANESE ARE NOT SUCH NARROW HEARTED PEOPLE THAT YOU INSIST !! On the contrary. THUS THE COOPERATION AND UNDERSTANDINGS AMONG PEOPLE OVER THE WORLD SHOULD PROCEED ON. That's what I want to say. 2. You wrote "some other Japanese people may require ..." in the above. We remember that you have once written words like "satisfy nationalism of Japanese..." It seems to mean "we are not the one to say such a thing. BUT there are some people who dare to say that." It automatically reminds us of people who cries over on the street or in the dark side of the town. When you write "nationalism", it relates nationalist, racist, patriot, you have everything. Do you want to mean that? Yes, it looks you you want to mean that. Please confirm on this. Let's discuss on this issue after I get your confirmation. 3. > A climber may not give up his plan to climb "Annapurna" for reason that > "Annapurna" is hard to spell and remember. > But in shogi, players have to remember the name of pieces when they read > game scores. I don't think whole your descriptions here are supporting what you seem to insist on. About the point on "making it easier", I have the honor of introducing to you a person Mr. T who seems more appropriate to talk on this issue. Let's move on to the next letter. with regards, K. "Sunny" SANO KFF00705 niftyserve or jp _________________________________________________________ Vital Kurashiki $B!!I{BeI=!!>eB po harenet or jp URL http://www.harenet.or.jp/vital ________________________________________ from Kurashiki,Japan