From: Yoshinori Sawada FA2 SO-NET OR JP> Date: 30 dec 1996 Subject: Re: "QUEST" Masuda's Ishida-ryu (1) I really thank Ms.Noda for introducing a very interesting book. I am sure that her effort will help non-Japanese-speaking shogi funs for their study of joseki, and am looking forward to her net post. However I was a little surprised the Black's move B*9f. This bishop seems to be killed soon but it isn't. I wonder if there is a good way to kill it. Dan-players' advice will appreciated since I am just 1-kyu. Speaking of Haya-Ishida, I also studied a little when I recently played this on an e-mail shogi with one of a Hong Kong shogi club members. I think the frightening variation for White is (from Black) P-7d, Px7d, Bx2b+, Sx2b, B*5e instead of Black's K-3h in the main flow. How would you play after Black's P-7d, if you were White, everybody?? It will be the fork of Rook and Silver. Takako Noda JA2 SO-NET OR JP> wrote $B!' (J > 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 >+--------------------------------------------+ White in hand: >| wL | wN | wS | wG | wK | wG | wS | wN | wL | a +------------------+ >+--------------------------------------------+ | | >| | wR | | | | | | wB | | b | | >+--------------------------------------------+ +------------------+ >| wP | | wP | wP | wP | wP | | wP | wP | c >+-------------------------------------------- >| | | | | | | wP | | | d >+--------------------------------------------+ >| | wP | bP | | | | | | | e >+--------------------------------------------+ >| | | | | | | | | | f >+--------------------------------------------+ >| bP | bP | | bP | bP | bP | bP | bP | bP | g >+--------------------------------------------+ Black in hand: >| | bB | bR | | | bK | | | | h +------------------+ >+--------------------------------------------+ | | >| bL | bN | bS | bG | | bG | bS | bN | bL | i | | >+--------------------------------------------+ +------------------+ > > >Then followed (from white): S-6b, K-3h, P-6d, K-2h, S-6c, >S-3h, K-4b, R-7f, Bx8h, Sx8h, S-3b, G-7h, P-4d, N-7g, >G6a-5b, B*9f. ---- Yoshinori Sawada Tokyo Japan E-mail address: sawada fa2 so-net or jp Nifty-serve ID: VED05133