From: SalvaAC AOL COM Date: 14 dec 1996 Subject: Re: Evaluation (was Re: Computer Shogi) In a message dated 96-12-13 05:35:50 EST, you write: << My chess background suggests that the long-range bishop and rooks are the dominant forces on the board >> I tend to think so, especially in the early and middle stages (in some cases). They can be helpful to tie opponents pieces down quickly (especially when receiving a handicap.) In the endgame though, if you're operating in close quarters trying to checkmate the opponent, rooks and bishops can be cumbersome if they don't have room to promote. I had a couple of my students at school looking at a short three move tsumeshogi, where the promoted bishop had to be sacked to move the key defender off the important square in order to deliver mate. Baffled them ("Why do you just GIVE the horse away for nothing?" :) kids!) but is SO standard. Position, position, position. Tony