From: Glen Miner NEWBRIDGE COM> Date: 13 dec 1996 Subject: Re: Evaluation (was Re: Computer Shogi) > >> >How about this for pieces on the board: > >> > > >> > > > > > >> Why is a promoted pawn worth less than a gold? In fact a tokin is worth > >> more. > > > >A promoted pawn is worth less than a real gold; while they are > >functionally the same, when you take a promoted pawn you only get a pawn. > >It is worth more than a regular pawn because of its enhanced mobility. > > O.K., suppose we use your suggested values--each side starts the game with > material worth 660 points. One side makes a tokin (a promoted pawn) and > succeds in trading it for a gold. what are the new point totals? For the > tokin side; 660+60-10=710. For the other side 660-60+10=610. So now there is > a difference of 100 points, which according to your table equals 2 silvers. > So the value of creating a tokin and exchanging it for a gold is a 2 silver > advantage. Hmm, I see your point; although I'm not sure how I'm going to fix it. When the piece get's taken, it's value depreciates automatically as it de-promotes... Hmmm, although it is good to make a distinction between the relative values of getting various pieces promoted: ie; a pawn promoting gains much more than silver promoting. Again, this seems to be inherintly part of the deal... Yes, making all nari-kin worth the same amount is good; the delta in score is the issue, not the overall score. It doesn't have to be "worth more" so much as "increases the score by a bigger margin". Peace ===[ Gabo / [ABC] : gaminer undergrad math uwaterloo ca ]=================== Latest ABC Shogi: http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~gaminer/shogi.html "What Greenpeace spends in a year General Motors spends in four hours" -Moby