From: frans roquas <roquas.afrtnl <at> PI <dot> NET>
Date: 17 apr 1996
Subject: Re: Checkmate rule

>     9   8   7   6
>
> a   wK  wS  bR  --
>
> b   --  --  --  --
>
> c   bG  --  --  --    Black: P
>
>
>Now, since the rules of shogi do not disallow the moves that
put the
>king in check, is P*9b a legal move?  By chess definition, P*9b
would
>be checkmate and therefore an illegal pawn drop.  However,
since
>S8ax9b is not disallowed, is the pawn drop in this position a
legal
>move?  Normally, Shogi Master will not allow me to drop a pawn
and give
>checkmate, but in this instance, it does allow the pawn drop.
Does
>anyone know for sure?
>
                        KIWAME
I followed the discussion concerning the pawn drop. I think
Reiger sounds sekoi.

Kiwame gives the following reaction in the above situation,(how
you got in the situation amazes me, but I don't play against
Shogi Master)
If I let Kiwame play human against human and I want to drop
checkmate he gives japanese signs I normally don't see and
Kiwame refuses to execute the move, so it's reasonable to
presume that the signs say it is illegal to do that move.

If Kiwame plays black half hour strength (Kiwame has 3 modes,
ordinary consisting of 6 levels, Super consisting of 4 levels
and half hour playing time) it takes silver straight away,
because it's tsume.

 So for science sake I took back some moves and lost the silver
somewhere and after the rookdrop I dropped the bishop, I made
sure black had only pawns and no mate if it sacrificed his rook
for the bishop. After that I gave control of black to Kiwame
half hour, He dropped a pawn straight away on the third line
and threatens to mate with the next move. So I conclude that a
deficiency in ShogiMaster results in a very nice discussion.


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Name: frans roquas
E-mail: roquas
Date: 04/06/96
Time: 10:04:45

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