From: "'Douglas Silfen\"." DELPHI COM> Date: 23 oct 1995 Subject: Re: Variants Thanks to RjHare's Web page, I found out the rules for Tori-Shogi. Thanks to Schmittberger's NEW RULES FOR CLASSIC GAMES, I found ou ..out the rules for Chu Shogi. I bought some cardboard and drew up a 7x7 board (for Tori) and a 12x12 board (for Chu). I made up the needed pieces out of cardboard and my friend and I played both games. I must say we had a great time. I think Tori and Chu are wonderful games that shouldn't be missed. Note for Tori Shogi-- The only way we could get a Goose (promoted swallow) to threaten a Phoenix (king) was to drop a swallow and then move it one space to promote it to the Goose. ;) Douglas Silfen San Diego, California, USA duglis delphi com