From: tn PANIX COM> Date: 13 oct 1995 Subject: Re: Notation of position and score? > I have observed that when Japanese chess players talk about chess in > the Japanese language, they use the same terms as are used in shogi. Well, I don't know any Japanese (a chess player or not) who uses the Shogi terms for the Chess pieces. I don't play chess, but have plenty of opportunity to interact with those who do, and never once heard them saying FU for Pawn, KAKU for Bishop, etc. And they don't say OUTE for check. Maybe I'm with the wrong crowd, or maybe there are some older Japanese chess players who say these things, but it sounds very odd to me. By the way, I thought the discussion about the stalemate in chess and shogi was interesting. I'm now wondering if chess has SEN'NICHITE, perpetual moves (?), which results in a tie game after the players intentionally repeat the same moves twice (or is that three times?) from a strategic reason when other moves are legally available. Is this stalemate in chess, too? -Taki Naruto panix com>