From: Pieter Stouten <stoutepf <at> CHEMSCI5 <dot> dmpc <dot> com>
Date: 9 oct 1995
Subject: Re: King in check

At 3:18 95/10/09, Adam Atkinson wrote:

>Uh, Pieter... in chess "stalemate" is exactly the same as having no moves.
>Really. Honestly.
>
Is there a position possible in chess where one cannot make any moves at
all not even moves that would put one's own king in check?

If so, then the concept of having no moves at all is different from
stalemate. If not, then the concept of having no possible (legal or
illegal, NOT impossible) moves does not exist in chess. In either case,
stalemate would not be equal to having no moves at all. Or is this
stalelogic?


>Things COULD be different in shogi, which is what we are discussing.
>
They *ARE* different as I tried to make clear by taking the chess analogy
to its logical Shogi consequences.

Cheers, Pieter.

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