From: fujimoto RD TKSC NASDA GO JP> Date: 13 nov 1995 Subject: Re: stalemate Thank you for your responce Mr Kawada. Discussion may be help to better understanding of shogi rule in Japnan for othre members. Hiroki>I like logically correct and perfect rule in shogi as I wrote in my Hiroki>former mail. There may be no PERFECT RULE but better rule difinition will be exist. I agree to define better rule, on the contraly I think thin rule book is better than thick one. Hiroki>In chess a player cannot pass his/her move, and if he has no next move the Hiroki>game is draw. So 'no next move' is not automatically understood as lose of Hiroki>the game Understood. I agree to add in shogi rule that 'no next move' is lose of the game as supliment. and also want to add "It will not occur in the real game" as foot note. Hiroki>I cannot agree to difining (or understanding) a rule in case by case. The Hiroki>game rule must be clearly defined and easily understood by all players. I am talking about "fairy game" and not about SHOGI itself. We shuld not define "fairy game rule" in the formal rule book. Please do not misunderstand. Any way there may be no Official Shogi rule book (not only in English but Japanese) We will make it in the future. -------------------------------------------------------------- Nobuyoshi Fujimoto / $BF#K\?.5A (B $B1'Ch3+H/;v6HCD!!1'Ch qmgate arc nasa gov fujimoto rd tksc nasda go jp $B!JF|K\8l%a!<%k2D!K (B --------------------------------------------------------------