From: Albyn Jones REED EDU> Date: 14 dec 1995 Subject: Re: IGS/ISS thread >I certainly agree that it would be more complicated to count handicap >games as ranking games. We've been using the Chess ELO system in >Europe for a number of years now to handle Shogi ranks, which seems to >be fairly successful. Handicap games are not used to update ELO ranks >since it was thought it would add too much complexity to the ranking >system. the ELO system is essentially an approximation to the MLE's for the same basic type of model used by the AGA/IGS rating system. it rates one player at a time, assuming that all other player's ratings are known, and uses simple approximations that were designed to be easy to implement on hand calculators. neither of these features are necessary now, roughly 50 years later. >> Also, in Go, the person who goes first gets a 0.5 >> advantage, where 1.0 == one stone. None of this makes sense >> for Shogi. Although, the person who does has the first move >> probably does have an advantage. > >Not much... it's something like 53% wins for Black in pro games. >Don't know about amateur games though. > >Steve Lamb. > which suggests that ignoring color will probably not be a big problem. albyn