From: Kevin Tsai HUSC BITNET> Date: 13 feb 1994 Subject: What does the name "shogi" _mean_? "Gi" means any game that resembles "chess." Not the Western chess specifically, but just any strategic game that is abstracized enough so that it resembles some sort of "chess." From here on, unless otherwise specified, "chess" will be used to mean this generic strategic game. "shogi" means "general's chess." "Sho" from "shogun," the supreme general in feudal Japan. "Xiangqi" has a similar origin. "Qi," pronounced "chi," is the same character as "gi." So it means "xian's chess." Now, "xian" could mean a number of things. The character literally means "elephant." However, it could be homonym for "miniter's chess," since the elephant is a piece in the game for black, whose encounter part in red is the minister. (In xiangqi, the equivalent pieces of opposite sides are named by their homonyms, some of which mean essentially the same thing. An example of why Romanization of Chinese characters could cause problems.) "Go" is really from the Japanese "i-go." The characters are the same as the ones in Chinese for "wei chi." (Not too sure about this. Anyone who speaks both Japanese and Chinese out there?) Here, "chi" is the same character as "gi" and "qi." "Wei" means "to surround." While it is clear that go really has its origin in China, because of the linguistic similarities, shogi is probably not a descendent of xiangqi. Not only are the charaters different, but the rules, etc. are not too similar either. They're probably distant cousins. Does anyone know more about the history of these games? Absalom on Drugs .