From: THE EYES OF GO ARE WATCHING YOU <92brown GW WMICH EDU> Date: 22 feb 1993 Subject: re:shogi problem >Opps, it seems my analysis was too quick. I not only assumed that the >only king on the board was white's, but also the night and the lance! >So, let's take a look once more at the position > > 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 > +--------------------------------------------+ White in hand: > | | | | |+bB | | | | | a +----------------+ > +--------------------------------------------+ | N N L P P P P P| > | | | wG | wS | | | |+bR | | b | P | > +--------------------------------------------+ | | > | | wK | | wP | | | | | | c | | > +--------------------------------------------+ +----------------+ > | | | wP | | |+wB | wR | | | d > +--------------------------------------------+ > | | bN | bL | | | | | | | e > +--------------------------------------------+ > | | | | | | | | | | f Black in hand: > +--------------------------------------------+ +----------------+ > | | | | | | | | | | g | N L G S P P P P| > +--------------------------------------------+ | P P P | > | | | | | | | | | | h | | > +--------------------------------------------+ | | > | | | | | | | | | | i +----------------+ > +--------------------------------------------+ > >As was pointed out earlier, what is the rest of the board like? This is >important, because that will to some extent determine the play. At this >point in the game the material is not important, mating the king is. >There is no Tsume (forced mate) that I can easily find for Black, so he >should look for Hishi (brinkmate). It is important to hem the king first >in order to deliver mate (otherwise he simply runs away). One example of how to >procede (assuming that black's king is not under threat of mate) is to drop >a silver at 9e. This threatens mate with the next move of G'9c. Also, even if >white tries to open up a line of escape with px7e, then G'8d forces the white >king back to 9b or 8b where it will soon be trapped and mated: for example, >K-8b, G-9c, K-7a, N'8c, K-8a, +Bx6b (not a check, but continues forced >response with threat of +Bx7b mate or S'9b mate), Gx6b, S'8b, K-7b, S-7a+ mate. >There are other variations, but the important aim here is to keep the king >hemmed in preferably with checks or forcing (albeit non-check) Hishi type moves >until you can deliver the coup de gras. This is a fun position to analize, >and is well worth looking at in terms of one of the shogi proverbs which >a fellow Shogi-L member and friend as often used against me, "squeeze, >then mate". > John. > InterNet: Kenney EMBL-Heidelberg DE ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for all of the expert opinions on the above problem. I was gote in the above scenario against Chris and felt that I was in the fortunate position of either being able to take his rook or his bishop on the next move. Thanks to John and others, I now see that I was in no way, shape or form ready to deal with a series of drops which would inevitably, due to my limited experience, have led to my downfall. I guess that I am still stuck in the mentality of John Wayne Shogi (Chess), where to drop a captured piece is to wimp out! It is hard to break out of this trap which prevents a truly deepened understanding of the strategy and skill that goes into preparing and performing a successful series of drops (emphasis on preparing). For us beginners I believe it is one of the more problematic aspects of the game and which provokes a number of questions; when is it proper to drop?, can I drop any time in the game or only in the endgame?, where can I drop?, and so on... I think perhaps a major hurdle is overcome when dropping becomes as much a part of thought process for making a move as just effectively moving the pieces that are already on the board instead of just an afterthought when you get into a tight spot. Thanks again for all those who responded, and be prepared for more. Chris and I get into some pretty weird configurations where we just look at each other and laugh, with one of us, usually me, saying "how did I ever get myself into this." Sean Brown Department of Anthropology Western Michigan University 92brown gw wmich edu