From: grimbergen MACPOST PSYCH KUN NL Date: 8 feb 1993 Subject: Re: Sente > >What about handicap games? I seem to recall something about the players >being called something else in those. White has the first move, but >removing the handicap pieces is considered Black's first move. This is true. In handicap games the player who gives handicap is called "uwate" and the player who gets a handicap is called "shitate". However, these terms are rarely used so I didn't put them in the list of terms. About the story that taking away pieces as a first move: I have been told that story too, but I am not so sure if this is true, legend or just made up by someone. Reijer Grimbergen