From: R J Hare FESTIVAL ED AC UK> Date: 21 nov 1992 Subject: Error in book? I have just acquired a copy of the excellent book Shogi for Beginners by John Fairbairn. I am a little puzzled by an apparent discrepancy in this book, I wonder if anyone can help? The statement is made (p3) that black 'plays first and in diagrams is always assumed to play up the board'. The statement is made (p143) that 'if a set has two types of king, black takes the one marked --- | --- |` --- Then, in all the diagrams in the book except the ones preceding p13, the king marked as indicated above is shown as the *WHITE* king. Have I missed something, or is this just a series of misprints, or is there an error in the above statements? If anyone who has a copy of the book can answer the above, I'd be grateful. Thanks. Another matter - I haven't yet seen any shogi mating problems on this list (which I only just joined, so excuse a new boy making all sorts of outrageous suggestions). Isn't this a good place to display such problems? I guess one could use an ascii board based on the following representation of the initial setup? +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ white | l | n | s | g | k | g | s | n | l | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | r | | | | | | b | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | | | | | | | | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | | | | | | | | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | | | | | | | | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | P | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | | B | | | | | | R | | +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ | L | N | S | G | K | G | S | N | L | black +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Which I guess is self-explanatory? Just a thought... Roger Hare.