From: atkinson VAXROM CERN CH Date: 17 jun 1991 Subject: I'll just try this once more >From: DXMINT::"LISTSERV TECHNION BITNET" 17-JUN-1991 10:50:15.05 To: VXRM64::atkinson CC: Subj: Rejected posting to SHOGI-L@TECHNION You are not authorized to mail to list SHOGI-L. Your message is being returned to you unprocessed. If you have any question regarding authorization to use the SHOGI-L list, please contact one the list owners, whose names and addresses are listed below: STOUTEN@EMBL Pieter Stouten AL HARTSHOR ------------------------- Rejected message (45 lines) ------------------------- Received: from CEARN.cern.ch by TECHNION.TECHNION.AC.IL (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 1154; Mon, 17 Jun 91 11:47:05 IST Received: from CEARN by CEARN.cern.ch (Mailer R2.07B) with BSMTP id 2313; Mon, 17 Jun 91 10:46:36 GVA Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by CEARN.cern.ch (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Mon, 17 Jun 91 10:46:34 GVA Received: from VXRM64.DECnet MAIL11D_V3 by dxmint.cern.ch (cernvax) (5.57/3.14) id AA04468; Mon, 17 Jun 91 10:29:01 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 91 10:29:00 +0200 Message-Id: <9106170829.AA04468 dxmint cern ch> >From: atkinson vxrm64 cern ch To: shogi-l@technion Subject: Giocare e' vivere GeV finished yesterday. I had a reasonable number of visitors at my "Shogi and Xiang-Qi" stand. Several people recognised Xiang-Qi, but only two recognised Shogi. Most people walked past saying "That must be Chinese Checkers" without even asking me to confirm this. I got somewhat irritated by this, unfortunately. I taught the rules to quite a few people, and played a fair number of games. (All of which I won, except two against someone who learnt the game from me several months ago and has been playing it with friends ever since.) I discovered that two members of Rome Go Club also play Shogi and Xiang-Qi, but that the only material they have on the games is the Spindler book and a leaflet on Xiang-Qi rules. A few people asked me where they could go to play the game, and I told them where I go every Friday to sit around not playing Shogi in the hope that someone will come with whom I can play. I handed out about 40-50 copies of the rules of Shogi in Italian, together with a Hodges price list, a copy of the "Addresses" file from Shogi-L, and a photocopy of all the pieces (including promoted forms) with names written next to them. The newly- launched "E Giochi" magazine came to ask me if it could do Shogi as its "featured game" in the Sept or Oct issue. So I have lent them a set. Of course, the few chess players who deigned to go anywhere except the chess area of Giocare e Vivere insulted me as they usually do. (You know the sort of thing - "I prefer normal Chess" from people who don't even know what the rules of X-Q or S are and thus are in no position to prefer normal chess, "Chess is the only intellectual game in the world" and all the usual stuff.) The Italian chess magazine "Torre e Cavallo" got a visit from me at the convention, since their latest issue has an article replying to recent criticism of chess orthodoxy by Giampaolo Dossena the journalist. The editorial said that chess players are not interested in other games, and that they SHOULD not be. Only in chess is there the "the king is dead" aspect of the end of the game etc etc. Utter nonsense, and I told them so. This won't have done me any good, but what the hell. ================== RFC 822 Headers ================== Received: by dxmint.cern.ch (cernvax) (5.57/3.14) id AA08192; Mon, 17 Jun 91 10:46:54 +0200 Received: from CEARN.cern.ch by CEARN.cern.ch (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 2474; Mon, 17 Jun 91 10:50:09 GVA Received: from TECHNION.TECHNION.AC.IL by CEARN.cern.ch (Mailer R2.07B) with BSMTP id 2473; Mon, 17 Jun 91 10:50:07 GVA Received: by TECHNION (Mailer R2.07) id 1173; Mon, 17 Jun 91 11:48:58 IST